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A Conversation with Susie Gurley

This episode of the Just A Mom podcast features Tracey Yokas, author of the book Bloodlines: A Memoir of Harm and Healing. In the book, Tracey explores her relationship with her own mother as well as the family dynamics of a child with mental illness.  Tracey’s daughter’s battle started with the death of Tracey’s mom in 2012 when her daughter was 13 years old and going into 8th grade.  It started one day with “I’m really not that hungry” and soon after that her daughter was diagnosed with an eating disorder and depression. 

In this episode, Tracey chronicles the myriad treatments they tried—counseling, partial hospitalization, intensive outpatient treatment, and eventually in-patient treatment. Tracey shares vulnerably how a big part of her journey was learning all of the things inside her that needed healing, and that she couldn’t control her daughter’s healing. Tracey also talks about how she felt so many of the things that many of us have felt—she didn’t want to share with people what was going on with her daughter, and she isolated herself a lot because of this. 

While so many of us talk about self-care as a vital part of maintaining our mental health, Tracey takes it a step further and challenges listeners to learn about themselves to become our best true selves.  She also emphasizes the importance of educating yourself about mental illness.

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Susie shares her family’s story because there is not a week that goes by that she is not contacted by someone who has heard her son’s story and has a child struggling as well. This is your invitation to join us on this journey to get better at caring for each other.

Susie Stapp Gurley was born and raised in Bartlesville, Oklahoma. She married her college sweetheart, Dan Gurley, shortly after graduating from TCU with a degree in advertising and public relations. In her first career, Susie worked in college admissions and academic advising. Simultaneously she pursued a master’s degree from The University of Central Missouri in sociology and then worked for the Sedgwick County, KS Department of Aging as a case worker. Susie stepped away from the professional world in 1997 to become a stay at home mom.  She spent the majority of the last 25 years as a wife, mother and volunteer, primarily in her church and her three children’s schools and activities.

Susie became a mental health advocate after her youngest son emerged as a teen spokesperson about his battle with depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. In 2018 at the age of 15, Will founded the You Matter Festival, a music festival promoting mental health awareness and suicide prevention. Will shared his personal mental health struggles with the 1,000 person crowd, which started his role as a local KC teen advocate for mental health. Because of Will’s involvement, Susie recorded a video #Zeroreasonswhy (https://zeroreasonswhy.org), a Kansas City area organization working to end teen suicide in the Johnson County, Kansas area. This video was viewed over 10,000 times, which was the impetus of the Just A Mom podcast. Susie decided that she needed to follow the brave trail blazed by her son and become an outspoken advocate for parents of children who struggle with mental illness. 

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Episode Highlights

I share, in part:

  • The steps we took during our treatment journey.
  •  My thoughts on my ambivalence on residential treatment.
  • How having a psychology degree was one more way at the time that I shamed myself.
  • How a pattern of codependency came into the equation and the havoc it caused in our relationship.
  • That low self-esteem and shame resided under my withdrawal from friends and family.
  • The early impact of our journey on our marriage and how we also isolated ourselves within our family.
  • The importance of connecting with our kids on a human to human level with empathy and compassion rather than with power and control, setting aside expectations in order to meet each other as people.
  • THE point of doing my own work and healing was in service to others through improving my relationship with myself.
  • What self-care actually is and why its important.
  • Where our relationships are now.
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