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When Healing Deepens: Lessons from a Year of Growth

A follow up conversation with Victoria Kleinsman of the Body Love Binge podcast.

When healing deepens, it’s not always in the ways we expect. The one-year anniversary of my book’s release arrived back in May, and I found myself reflecting on my healing journey and how it had continued to unfold over the previous twelve months.

There were so many meaningful experiences to look back on, but the podcast conversations stood out. Each one felt like a dialogue between who I was and who I’m still becoming. One that especially stayed with me was my original conversation with Victoria Kleinsman on her Body Love Binge podcast. That exchange was honest, vulnerable, and full of heart—it reminded me that connection is its own kind of medicine. (You can see or listen to that conversation at the bottom of this post under the Featured Resource section.)

Inspired by that first talk, I reached out to Victoria to see if we could record a one-year follow-up. To my great joy, Victoria said yes!

Since we last spoke, she’s experienced the life-altering transition into motherhood, while I’ve continued to navigate my own journey of healing and self-discovery. When we first talked, my diagnosis of complex PTSD was still new, and I was just beginning to understand how it shaped my patterns, perceptions, and behaviors. I wondered what new clarity or insights this past year might have brought to me and to Victoria.

If there’s one thing talking with Victoria reminded me it’s how potent it is to witness and be witnessed. This past year has shown me that one of the biggest surprises of all is realizing, again and again, how not alone we are on this journey. Every time someone says, “me too,” something inside softens and another little piece of me remembers that I’m okay just the way I am.

You can watch our new conversation at the link below.

The main bullet points of our discussion

  • Then & Now: What’s shifted in our lives. Victoria had a baby! My book won an award!
  • The Inner Work is the Outer Work: How tending to our own wounds shifts the emotional climiate for our kids.
  • Breaking the Chain: Spotting and interrupting the beliefs about worth, perfectionism and control (to name a few) so we break the chain of transmission to our kids.
  • Self-care without shame: Why so many mothers feel guilt about self-care, how shame fuels it, and how we can reframe it as an act of love for ourselves and our family. 

We share much more about:

More juicy detail

  • The role of surrender in healing: what it is, why it’s important, and how to know when you’re not in a state of acceptance.
  • Our parents did the best they could, but they did not understand the impact of their inability to deal with their own pain, suffering, and discomfort. A few things I wish mine had done differently.
  • Why the work of identifying and healing dysfunctions patterns is important no matter the age of our child(ren.)
  • What it means to our kids to see us modeling healing, boundaries, and self-love.
  • Concrete examples of the way Victoria is handling food differently (already!, with an 11 month old) with her daughter than her parents did with her.
  • The dilemma of assigning moral values of “good and bad” to food.
  • An ever important reminder that using food as a coping mechanism isn’t bad as long as we have some other ones to rely on as well.
  • The necessity on this journey of recognizing shame and meeting it with love and understanding.
  • A definition of responsibility that includes acknowledging it’s our job to make our needs known and to be willing to receive.

Check out the conversation and join the discussion

Victoria and I would love to hear from you. Please leave a comment. Please ask a question. We want to keep the conversation going, and want to know what you’d like to hear more of.

CLICK HERE TO WATCH THE VIDEO ON YOUTUBE

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Podcast Resources

Additional resources I hope will help, if you need them.


Here is my original conversation with Victoria.

One Comment

  1. This was a great discussion, Tracey! Sometimes what seems to be common sense isn’t so common. Lol

    I wasn’t a perfect mom although I did some things that turned out to be good choices, even if other moms did things differently. I didn’t try to force my kids to eat more than they wanted to. As they got older they could stop halfway through a dessert and say they were full. I didn’t create a schedule for their eating and sleeping patterns when they were babies and not surprisingly, they eventually adjusted to 3 meals a day with some snacks and a full night’s sleep. I didn’t try to toilet-train them until they expressed interest, which is interesting because the conversion away from diapers happened pretty quickly. That was so easy!

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